Comments on: It’s here, it’s here! http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/ Get more from your shiny box of joy Sun, 07 Mar 2010 09:30:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tom http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-2/#comment-23415 tom Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:16:23 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-23415 hmmmmm, has anyboby been able to update and then instal perian and plugins? Is it possible to rip out the HD and copy the files to the drive? Do the plugins even work or is it a new structure of files? I have a 10GB HD I could use to install the AppleTV partitions on. The problem is, that i don't know how to get the files to the 10GB HD because the standard HD is 40GB and copying with copycat is not possible because the app wants to have a 40GB HD for duplication. Any idea. I could test all plugins then. Thanx TOM hmmmmm,
has anyboby been able to update and then instal perian and plugins? Is it possible to rip out the HD and copy the files to the drive? Do the plugins even work or is it a new structure of files? I have a 10GB HD I could use to install the AppleTV partitions on. The problem is, that i don’t know how to get the files to the 10GB HD because the standard HD is 40GB and copying with copycat is not possible because the app wants to have a 40GB HD for duplication. Any idea. I could test all plugins then.
Thanx
TOM

]]> By: jogo http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-2/#comment-19919 jogo Sun, 17 Feb 2008 06:13:41 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-19919 You are able to have some content local while streaming other content. You just have to make sure that after you update you select "Custom Update" and deselect "Show only the synced items on my Apple TV" from the Apple TV Summary Page in iTunes. It's actually better than the old way because it integrates your streaming with your synced items so you no longer have to switch sources to access your streamed items. You are able to have some content local while streaming other content. You just have to make sure that after you update you select “Custom Update” and deselect “Show only the synced items on my Apple TV” from the Apple TV Summary Page in iTunes. It’s actually better than the old way because it integrates your streaming with your synced items so you no longer have to switch sources to access your streamed items.

]]> By: Sean http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-2/#comment-19498 Sean Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:41:46 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-19498 Does anyone know if take II is an all or nothing kind of deal when it comes to streaming? I don't own an apple tv (yet) but I was thinking of buying the 160g ver which I would store my music, and photo's local on the unit. However my movie collection is 700gig which I would have to obviously stream. Soooooo, am I able to have some content local and others stream? Anyone? Thanks in advance! Does anyone know if take II is an all or nothing kind of deal when it comes to streaming?

I don’t own an apple tv (yet) but I was thinking of buying the 160g ver which I would store my music, and photo’s local on the unit. However my movie collection is 700gig which I would have to obviously stream. Soooooo, am I able to have some content local and others stream? Anyone?

Thanks in advance!

]]> By: Dave http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-19319 Dave Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:31:03 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-19319 The wonderful folks at awkward TV have posted instructions for an initial "safe" update ie. to preserve content and ssh/scp access etc. It will break plugins and 1080i, but backs-up 1.1 files (unknown whether perian still works in this configuration): http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Take_2_Safe_Update The wonderful folks at awkward TV have posted instructions for an initial “safe” update ie. to preserve content and ssh/scp access etc. It will break plugins and 1080i, but backs-up 1.1 files (unknown whether perian still works in this configuration):

http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Take_2_Safe_Update

]]> By: ML67-F http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18949 ML67-F Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:25:57 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18949 Something perhaps that went unnoticed with "take 2" : when viewing a movie (my library is h264-encoded on separate NAS and distributed as iTunes aliases), fast advance or "rewind" works far smoother than with 1.1 ; the movie starts more quickly - less than 2 sec in most instances - , and general operation is also smoother and quicker. Im not interested in renting movies for 24h and 3 dollars when you can find even recent DVDs at this price (I pay - legal!), rip them "top-quality" and see them as many time as you wish, and when you wish. I was mainly interested in the "media center" aspect of ATV (not the "I want to make money with you every month" S.Jobs aspect), and from my point of view, this release improves the "media center". Give us movie playlists and I promise to buy a third ATV. Something perhaps that went unnoticed with “take 2″ : when viewing a movie (my library is h264-encoded on separate NAS and distributed as iTunes aliases), fast advance or “rewind” works far smoother than with 1.1 ; the movie starts more quickly – less than 2 sec in most instances – , and general operation is also smoother and quicker.

Im not interested in renting movies for 24h and 3 dollars when you can find even recent DVDs at this price (I pay – legal!), rip them “top-quality” and see them as many time as you wish, and when you wish.

I was mainly interested in the “media center” aspect of ATV (not the “I want to make money with you every month” S.Jobs aspect), and from my point of view, this release improves the “media center”.

Give us movie playlists and I promise to buy a third ATV.

]]> By: GLF http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18886 GLF Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:27:57 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18886 I want to be able to keep all content I buy on the apple TV and then only sync (or stream?) only content I want to sync to my ipod for viewing there. This is my 1st priority. What is best hack for this? After that I would like to be able to still stream an/ or sync specified content from itunes on mac or external HD with/out losing my 1st priority. Is there a hack that will take care of both of these? I thought when I bought the Apple TV a few days ago that it would be able to do these things with the new upgrade. Especially when apple is selling a 160gb storage area in Apple tv. What is the purpose of such a large storage device if can only use temporary ? Thanks for the help. I want to be able to keep all content I buy on the apple TV and then only sync (or stream?) only content I want to sync to my ipod for viewing there. This is my 1st priority. What is best hack for this?

After that I would like to be able to still stream an/ or sync specified content from itunes on mac or external HD with/out losing my 1st priority. Is there a hack that will take care of both of these?

I thought when I bought the Apple TV a few days ago that it would be able to do these things with the new upgrade. Especially when apple is selling a 160gb storage area in Apple tv. What is the purpose of such a large storage device if can only use temporary ? Thanks for the help.

]]> By: Dave http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18838 Dave Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:06:02 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18838 yeah we're all whiners and then you whine about some of the exact same flaws in the upgrade. So I didn't upgrade either for the same reasons and I believe our mutual objective in "whining" is to warn others. You're right - most people don't know what ssh or scp or perian is, and they shouldn't have to ! This thing should play and sync avi's out the box at this point in it's revision history - sshd would have added just 600k to the download if a divx codec is really too much to ask for. Today if I were shopping for a media player, I'd likely opt for the ArchosTV which is about the size of AppleTV - in addition to adding web browser(yup, including flash&youtube)/avi and even protected wmv support, this also replaces the functionality of a TiVo box: http://www.unwiredshow.tv/2008/02/11/50-archos-tv-plus-launch/ http://www.archos.com/store_us/index.html?country=us&lang=en&gclid=CMvj9eL0xZECFRUmawodbmha3Q Apple have dropped the ball and the idiots in marketing who led this upgrade effort should be given one chance to fix it before being fired. yeah we’re all whiners and then you whine about some of the exact same flaws in the upgrade. So I didn’t upgrade either for the same reasons and I believe our mutual objective in “whining” is to warn others. You’re right – most people don’t know what ssh or scp or perian is, and they shouldn’t have to ! This thing should play and sync avi’s out the box at this point in it’s revision history – sshd would have added just 600k to the download if a divx codec is really too much to ask for.

Today if I were shopping for a media player, I’d likely opt for the ArchosTV which is about the size of AppleTV – in addition to adding web browser(yup, including flash&youtube)/avi and even protected wmv support, this also replaces the functionality of a TiVo box:
http://www.unwiredshow.tv/2008/02/11/50-archos-tv-plus-launch/
http://www.archos.com/store_us/index.html?country=us&lang=en&gclid=CMvj9eL0xZECFRUmawodbmha3Q

Apple have dropped the ball and the idiots in marketing who led this upgrade effort should be given one chance to fix it before being fired.

]]> By: Newlook http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18830 Newlook Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:37:55 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18830 The only hack I need is support for Perian... Everything else is just fine... Keep it simple or buy a Mac Mini, you get a remote and front row too... The only hack I need is support for Perian…

Everything else is just fine… Keep it simple or buy a Mac Mini, you get a remote and front row too…

]]> By: MILE http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18778 MILE Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:23:25 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18778 Wow, all that whining and complaining and blaming Apple...jeez, people, grow up...! As much as I love Apple products, I so hate what they are doing with their consumer products...first (and now again) the ATV, then the iPhone...! Yes, it sucks...and still I wouldn't want to miss either one...! Instead of just rushing into the update and then complaining about it, you could have gathered some information first...!? At least I did and I decided that as much as I would enjoy the new features I just can't live without being able to view my own content, without additional codecs and plugins...and so I decided to wait...! I'll wait until some genius comes up with a solution (either a new Patchstick or a working Safe Update), so that I then can have the bost of both worlds... And as for some of the demands in here -- get realistic...!!! Netflix support...?!? Why on earth would Apple want to do that, when they want you to rent their own media...?!? SSH support...?! The average user has no clue what SSH or even FTP is...and they don't need it either...! They unbox their ATV, plug it in and use it as is... And this goes for so many other demands and complaints...Apple has a vision of where they want this to go and they are not going to change that -- whether we like it or not...! Wow, all that whining and complaining and blaming Apple…jeez, people, grow up…! As much as I love Apple products, I so hate what they are doing with their consumer products…first (and now again) the ATV, then the iPhone…! Yes, it sucks…and still I wouldn’t want to miss either one…!

Instead of just rushing into the update and then complaining about it, you could have gathered some information first…!? At least I did and I decided that as much as I would enjoy the new features I just can’t live without being able to view my own content, without additional codecs and plugins…and so I decided to wait…! I’ll wait until some genius comes up with a solution (either a new Patchstick or a working Safe Update), so that I then can have the bost of both worlds…

And as for some of the demands in here — get realistic…!!!

Netflix support…?!? Why on earth would Apple want to do that, when they want you to rent their own media…?!?

SSH support…?! The average user has no clue what SSH or even FTP is…and they don’t need it either…! They unbox their ATV, plug it in and use it as is…

And this goes for so many other demands and complaints…Apple has a vision of where they want this to go and they are not going to change that — whether we like it or not…!

]]> By: Dave http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/comment-page-1/#comment-18770 Dave Fri, 15 Feb 2008 06:23:18 +0000 http://www.appletvhacks.net/2008/02/12/its-here-its-here/#comment-18770 I'm glad the upgrade works for you khead. btw, you can "subscribe" to podcasts on your mac and they automatically download and sync - I know, you have to walk over to your computer and that's very stressful. There's even a new fangled thingumabob called a "dvd player" that lets you watch all that lovely region-locked mpaa/riaa content directly on your tv! About $39 now and you'd save the pain of someone having to hack a rather unique requirement. Regarding suggesting people redo hacks since this is major update, Apple could have *very* easily have made this upgrade without clobering ssh at least. Heck, if they *really* gave a damn, maybe the "upgrade" could have *come with* ssh access? Gasp no, that would be facilitating copyright infringement (maybe they should similarly lockdown connectivity to the rest of their computing products and see those products die too) No, they gave into the movie moguls and said "screw-you" to those who are more passionate about pushing the capabilities of their products. It makes me want to say screw you Apple and pull the plug on AppleTV forsake of an obsolete G4 mini that I have laying around. I'll certainly never recommend this to anyone in this state - it may be the start of a slow death for this product imho. The only way Apple could recover this product in my books is if they forthwith made an update available which turned-on ssh/scp while allowed syncing/playing of avi's. I doubt it and I'll be sticking with hacked 1.1 till this hotplate fries itself to death - I reckon the mtbf will be around 3 years at those temperatures. I’m glad the upgrade works for you khead. btw, you can “subscribe” to podcasts on your mac and they automatically download and sync – I know, you have to walk over to your computer and that’s very stressful. There’s even a new fangled thingumabob called a “dvd player” that lets you watch all that lovely region-locked mpaa/riaa content directly on your tv! About $39 now and you’d save the pain of someone having to hack a rather unique requirement. Regarding suggesting people redo hacks since this is major update, Apple could have *very* easily have made this upgrade without clobering ssh at least.

Heck, if they *really* gave a damn, maybe the “upgrade” could have *come with* ssh access? Gasp no, that would be facilitating copyright infringement (maybe they should similarly lockdown connectivity to the rest of their computing products and see those products die too)

No, they gave into the movie moguls and said “screw-you” to those who are more passionate about pushing the capabilities of their products. It makes me want to say screw you Apple and pull the plug on AppleTV forsake of an obsolete G4 mini that I have laying around. I’ll certainly never recommend this to anyone in this state – it may be the start of a slow death for this product imho.

The only way Apple could recover this product in my books is if they forthwith made an update available which turned-on ssh/scp while allowed syncing/playing of avi’s.

I doubt it and I’ll be sticking with hacked 1.1 till this hotplate fries itself to death – I reckon the mtbf will be around 3 years at those temperatures.

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